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  Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

  by FusionTheism in

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  2. bible

  the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

  book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

  the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

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  When did the UN once again become "The Disgusting Thing"?

  Or was it still the disgusting thing when the WTB&TS hooked up with it? Was the WTB&TS just a bit horny and looking for some strange?
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  Coping With Atheism (Long-ish Post...sorry!)

  by humblepotato in

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  2. friends

  long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.

  first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.

  all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.

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  Nathan Natas

  Hey Spud-nik,

  I'm an atheist; welcome to the frying pan!

  Here's something you might find is an easy way to increase the burden of doubt in your mind - watch a few season's worth of Animal Planet's "MONSTERS INSIDE ME". They are up to season 5, I think. In short, it is a layman's course in the subject of PARASITISM, which is Nature's Way of saying, "Fuck you and your imaginary friend!"

  You may want to keep a puke bucket close at hand while you watch, unless you've got a really strong stomach, in which case you can let the puke bucket sit six feet away.

  Here's a link: http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/monsters-inside-me/

  Share the shows with your wife. Ask probing questions like, "How do these things fit in with god's glorious plan?" "What purpose would such vile creatures serve in Paradise?" "Should we not care that other creatures suffer and die with parasites, even if we humans were spared?"

  Share your puke bucket with her, demonstrate the divine quality of empathy.
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  Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.

  i don't know who he stole it from.

  please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.

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  I consider Rick Fearon a friend and anything he wants to plagiarize from me I consider an honor. He has my full and complete permission and support. You're a good man, Rick!
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  Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.

  i don't know who he stole it from.

  please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.

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  Nathan Natas

  With thanks to JustKidding:

  Playing Russian roulette with a semiautomatic pistol (where there is NO empty chamber).
  
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  Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.

  i don't know who he stole it from.

  please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.

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  OTWO confessed, "I stole this, from of all places, Rick Fearon. I don't know who he stole it from."

  MAYBE http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/206030004/things-that-trust-more-hillary-clinton
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  "Evidence" of a "smokelike pall"... This was the last straw for me back in 2008. Fade began with this:

  by DarioKehl in

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  from that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .

  i had my doubts since childhood.

  i went along with it to please people.

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  When I read ALIVE!'s comment, "I'm sitting here and it's ALL coming back to me."

  I flashed on this song by Meatloaf and, well, here it is:

  Maybe somehow the lyrics are germane to this discussion. If not, consider it a musical interlude in the discussion...

  https://youtu.be/EaeA0C_339w
  
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  Things that I trust more than Hillary Clinton

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. social
  2. humour

  things that i trust more than hillary clinton:.

  mexican tap water.

  any email from nigeria.

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  Things that I trust more than Hillary Clinton:

  Mexican tap water. Any email from Nigeria. A rattlesnake with a "pet me" sign. OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection. A fart when I have diarrhea. An elevator ride with Ray Rice. Taking pills offered by Bill Cosby. Michael Jackson's Doctor. An Obama Nuclear deal with Iran. A Palestinian on a motorcycle. Gas station Sushi. A Jimmy Carter economic plan. Brian Williams news reports. Loch Ness monster sightings. Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton. Truck stop hookers. Tax advice from the IRS. Used car salesmen. Pet food from China. Recap tires at 100 mph
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  Crisis of Conscience

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wow, what a great book.

  i started reading it today and have not been able stop.

  im already 80 pages in!

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  NotSureWhereToGo - I have already eaten your hat. In fact, I didn't just EAT your hat, I ATE THE HELL OUT OF IT. ...and you are correct about Don Cameron's book, an excellent piece of original writing that inspired me to produce my own excellent line of Replica Reprints. Let the reader use discernment.

  Athanasius - I'm glad you didn't go so far as to offer that because YOU (as an elder) were UNAWARE of the Pedophile Paradise Problem, it DID NOT EXIST. As I stated, I was merely a Pioneer/MS in the Middle Village, Queens, NYC congregation in the early 70s when the "accelerated" TRUTH book program was hauling in tons of hippies and neo-Jesus-freaks. One was a young man who made "rapid spiritual progress" and soon began his own little project, offering "free home Bible studies" to CHILDREN of parents who had no personal interest in "spiritual things" - that's an excellent technique for finding neglected kids - and he would have his "studies," and get friendly with the kids, and start bringing them to Sunday meetings - he ALWAYS managed to arrive just a bit late so that he could parade his team of 6 or 8 victims from various families to the front row in the Hall - the row that was almost always unoccupied - it provided him with great visibility in front of the congregation.

  After carefully cultivating a friendship with those he found most vulnerable, he would suggest to the parents that he could take the kid "camping" over a weekend - you know, to get the kid off of their parent's hands for a while. It was during these "camping" trips that unspeakable things would happen and "secrets" would be made, with threats of dire circumstances should the child reveal those "secrets".

  But then one child DID reveal the secrets, and the ruse was discovered, and NOTHING WAS DONE TO THE PERPETRATOR. A few years later he married a new Sister who had young children from her previous marriage. The ELDERS never told her a word about the monster who would be sharing her bed.

  He's gone now; vanished, as though resting in an unmarked grave somewhere. Hastened before the "throne of judgement"...

  It is easy to see how elders "never heard of such things" - it is because they refused to ever speak of such things. Gotta protect Jehovah, y'know!
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  Crisis of Conscience

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wow, what a great book.

  i started reading it today and have not been able stop.

  im already 80 pages in!

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  ...and yet Ray Franz was still a human being, with human failings and human weaknesses.

  For example, in spite of his prominent position in the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, he claimed to have NO KNOWLEDGE of the pedophile issue within the WTB&TS, none. Hell, I was only a Ministerial Servant in the Middle Village congregation in Queens NY, in the early 1970s and I knew of a pedophile in that congregation! Yet, ten years later, a "member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses" has NO KNOWLEDGE of the issue.

  I find that impossible to believe, but I was never a member of Ray's fan club - I left the WTB&TS before he did and didn't feel I "needed" him for anything, historically or theologically.

  So - don't fall into the trap of HERO WORSHIP. If you feel compelled to worship a human, worship me in secrecy and in silence. I have been "present" aboard the invisible UADNA orbiting space platform since 1913 and will continue to watch over you, protect you, and provide un-dreamed-of wealth for those who keep faith with me.

  Rule #1 - Don't talk about the Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America (UADNA) or any of the blessings it has brought you. Do not point to the UADNA invisible orbiting space platform!

  Rule #2 - When you are "ripe" a UADNA operative will contact you.

  Rule #3 - Don't "push the river"! Those most eager to join UADNA are NOT READY! Keep rule #1!

  Most people can't follow simple instructions.
  
  
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  It's time to say goodbye to JWD - I sold it !

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  a week or so ago i posted that the forum was 15 years old (15 years of jehovahs-witness.com) and hinted that there may be some news to announce about the site:.

  i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.

  well, now i can announce it - i sold it !.

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  The really odd thing is that the WTB&TS fell for it and is cutting you a check for untold billions of dollars.